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Please note that there are many free references available on using the
Internet available via the Internet [including an earlier version of
"Zen and the Art of the Internet"], but if you would rather own a bound
book or do not yet have Internet access, then these books might be for
you.

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Subject: -18- How can I find answers to other questions?
Date: 8 Mar 92 00:00:01 EST

By asking the questions in an appropriate manner in an appropriate newsgroup.
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Subject: X on Intel-based Unix Frequently Asked Questions [FAQ] (with answers)
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Archive-name: Intel-Unix-X-faq
Last-modified: 15 Dec 1992

Note: This is a major re-organization (and replacement) of my
      "Frequently Asked Questions About X386" FAQ list.

This article includes answers to:

I) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?
    1. Free options
    2. Commercial options
II) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?
    3. What is XFree86?
    4. What OSs are supported?
    5. What video hardware is supported?
    6. What about accelerated boards?
    7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?
    8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?
    9. Where can I get source for XFree86?
    10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?
IV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?
    11. Installation directories
    12. Configuration files
    13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes
    14. Rebuilding/reconfiguring the server from the link kit
V) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?
    15. SVR4
    16. SVR3
    17. 386BSD
    18. Linux
    19. Mach
VI) What general things should I know for building XFree86 from source?
    20. Disk space requirements
    21. README files to take note of
    22. Compiler recommendations
VII) What OS-specific things should I know for building XFree86 from source?
    23. SVR4
    24. SVR3
    25. 386BSD
    26. Linux
    27. Mach
VIII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?
    28. BSD compatibility library
    29. ANSICCOPTIONS

This article does NOT include answers to general X questions, since these
are already covered by the X FAQ that is regularly posted by David B. Lewis
<[e-mail]>.

If you have anything to add or change on the FAQ just let me know.
(especially if you had a problem that someone else was able to help you with)
Send changes to [e-mail], please put 'FAQ' somewhere
in the subject line so that my mail filter will put it in the correct
mail folder.

Please DO NOT ask me questions that are not answered in the FAQ.  I do not
have time to respond to these individually.  Instead, post your question
to the net, and send me the question and answer together when you get it.

Frequently Asked Questions About X on Intel-based Unix (with answers)
=====================================================================

I) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?

1. Free options
    The BEST option is XFree86, which is an enhanced version of X386 1.2.
    Any other version of X386 will have slower performance, and will
    be more difficult to compile.  Information on how to obtain XFree86
    is listed below.

    X386 is the port of the X11 server to System V/386 that was
    done by Thomas Roell ([e-mail]).
    It supports a wide variety of SVGA boards.
    There are 2 major free versions: X386 1.1 is based on X11R4,
    X386 1.2 is included in MIT's X11R5 distribution (ie. you
    don't need to patch it into the MIT source any more).
    X386 1.3 is the current commercial offering from SGCS (see below).

2. Commercial options

     1) Metro Link
    2213 W. McNab Road
    Pompano Beach, FL  33069
    [phone]
    Fax: [phone]
    email: [e-mail]

    Summary: OS: SVR3.2, SVR4, Venix
         HW: EGA, VGA, SVGA, TIGA, TARGA, 8514/A, S3
         Other: Motif, OpenLook/XView, XIE Imaging Extension

     2) SGCS (Snitily Graphics Consulting Services)
    894 Brookgrove Lane
    Cupertino, CA  95014
    [phone], [phone]
    Fax: [phone]
    email: [e-mail]  or ...!mips!zok!info

    Summary: OS: SVR3.2, SVR4
         HW: 8514/A (ATI Ultra), S3 (Diamond Stealth), SVGA
         Other: Motif, Dual-headed server

     3) Consensys Corporation
    1301 Pat Booker Rd.
    Universal City, TX 78148
    Phone: [phone]
    FAX:   [phone]
    email: [e-mail]

    Summary: OS: Consensys V4.2, Consensys' version of
             Unix System V Release 4.2
         HW: X11R4 server support for VGA, SVGA
         Other: MoOLIT, Motif, X11R5 Clients

     4) The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
    p.o. box 1900
    Santa Cruz, California 95061
    [phone], (800) SCO UNIX,
    FAX: [phone]
    email: [e-mail]

    Summary: OS: ODT 1.1, ODT 2.0, SCO Unix 3.2v4
         HW: X11R4 server support for SVGA, 8514/A, S3, TMS340x0,
             WD90C31, XGA2, assorted local bus (see SCO Hardware
             Compatabilty Guide for actual card vendors).
         Other: Motif

  NOTE: Other commercial vendors (including OS vendors describing
    bundled software) are welcome to submit summary information
    summary information such as the above.

II) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?

3. What is XFree86?

   XFree86 is an enhanced version of X386 1.2, which was distributed with
   X11R5.  This release consists of many bug fixes, speed improvements, and
   other enhancements.  Here are the highlights of the enhancements:

    1) The SpeedUp package from Glenn Lai is an integral part of XFree86,
       selectable at run-time via the Xconfig file.  Some SpeedUps require
       an ET4000 based SVGA, and others require a virtual screen width of
       1024.  The SpeedUps suitable to the configuration are selected by
       default.  Depending on the underlying hardware, these enhancements
       can provide as much as a 50% improvement in xStones.
    2) The fX386 packages from Jim Tsillas are included as the default
       operating mode if SpeedUp is not selected.  This mode is now
       equivalent in performance to X386 1.1b (X11R4).
    3) Support for LOCALCONN, compile-time selectable for server, clients,
       or both.  This support is for both SVR3.2 and SVR4.  For SVR4.0.4
       with the 'Advanced Compatibility Package', local connections from
       SCO XSight/ODT clients are supported.
    4) Support for the newer ET4000-based SVGAs which have high clocks and
       reported incorrect clock values with the standard version.  This
       support is automatic and does not require any Xconfig options.
       Note that the Diamond SpeedStar 24 (as opposed to the 24X) is an
       ET4000 board that is NOT compatible with XFree86 (in addition, the
       SpeedStar 24X does not use an ET4000, and is also not supported).
    5) Support for compressed bitmap fonts has been added (Thomas Eberhardt's
       code from the contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu).
    6) Integrated support for 386BSD, Mach, and Linux.
    7) A monochrome version of the server which will run on generic VGA
       cards is now included.  This server uses just 64k of the memory on
       the VGA, and hence is limited to a virtual screen of approx. 800x600.
    8) New configuration method which allows the server's drivers and font
       renderers to be reconfigured from both source and binary
       distributions.

   Also included are a tutorial on monitor timing by Bob Crosson, and the
   current X386 mode database and a sample xdm configuration by David Wexelblat.

4. What OSs are supported?

    XFree86 supports:
    SVR4: Microport, Dell, Esix, ISC, AT&T, MST, Consensys, UHC
    SVR3: ISC 2.2 & 3.0, AT&T 2.2
    Linux, Mach, 386BSD

    BSD/386 is not supported, but it should work. The most active
    BSD/386 person is Greg Lehey <[e-mail]>.

    Note that Esix 3.2D and SCO are not supported yet,
    but anyone should feel free to submit patches.
    If you are interested in tackling this, send mail to
    [e-mail]

5. What video hardware is supported?

    ET4000        (Tseng)
    ET3000        (Tseng)
    PVGA1        (Paradise)
    WD90Cxx        (Western Digital - Paradise PVGA1 Supersets)
    GVGA        (Genoa)
    TVGA8900C    (Trident)
    ATI18800,28800    (ATI SVGA - not 8514!)

    If you are purchasing new hardware for the purpose of using XFree86, it
    is suggested that you purchase an ET4000-based board such as the
    Orchid ProDesigner IIs.  Avoid recent Diamond boards; XFree86 will not
    work with them, because Diamond won't provide programming details.
    In fact, the XFree86 project is actively not supporting new Diamond
    products, as long as such policies remain in effect.  Contributions
    of code will NOT be accepted (because of the potential liabilities).
    If you would like to see this change, tell Diamond about it.

6. What about accelerated boards?

    At this time, there is no support for accelerated boards like the
    S3, ATI Ultra (8514/A), TIGA, etc.  This support is available in
    commercial products from SGCS and MetroLink (for SVR3 and SVR4).

    A beta S3 server is available for 386BSD. Contact <[e-mail]>
    A beta 8514/A server is available for Linux. Contact <[e-mail]>
    or <[e-mail]>. Note: these servers are NOT part of XFree86.

7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?

    The reason that this is not supported is the way VGA implements the
    16-color modes.  In 256-color modes, each byte of frame buffer memory
    contains 1 pixel.  But the 16-color modes are implemented as bit-
    planes.  Each byte of frame- buffer memory contains 1 bit from each
    of each of 8 pixels, and there are four such planes.  The MIT frame-
    buffer code is not designed to deal with this.  If VGA handled
    16-color modes by packing 2 4-bit pixels into each byte, the MIT code
    could be modified to support this (or it already may; I'm not sure).
    But for the VGA way of doing things, a complete new frame-buffer
    implementation is required.  And it's not something the XFree86
    Core Team wants to tackle.

8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?

    Obviously, a supported SVGA board and OS are required.  To run
    X efficiently, 12-16MB of memory should be considered a minimum.
    The various binary releases take 10-40MB of disk space, depending
    on the OS (e.g. whether or not it supports shared libraries).
    To build from sources, at least 80MB of free disk space will
    be required, although 120MB should be considered a comfortable
    lower bound.

9. Where can I get source for XFree86?

    Source patches for the current version (1.1, based on X11R5 PL17
    from MIT), are available via anonymous FTP from:
        export.lcs.mit.edu (under /contrib/XFree86)
        ftp.physics.su.oz.au (under /XFree86)
        ftp.win.tue.nl (under /pub/XFree86)
    (For the rest of this FAQ, these 3 location will be called $FTP)

    Refer to the README file under the specified directory for information
    on which files you need to get to build your distribution.

10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?

    Binaries are available via anonymous FTP from:
        ftp.physics.su.oz.au        - SVR4 binaries
            under /XFree86/SVR4
        ftp.win.tue.nl            - SVR4 binaries
            under /pub/XFree86/SVR4
        ferkel.ucsb.edu            - SVR4 binaries
            under /pub/SVR4/XFree86
        stasi.bradley.edu        - SVR4 binaries
            under /pub/XFree86/SVR4
        blancmange.ma.utexas.edu    - SVR3 (ISC) binaries
            under /pub/ISC/XFree86-1.1
        tsx-11.mit.edu            - Linux binaries
            under /pub/linux/packages/X11/xfree86-1.1
        agate.berkeley.edu        - 386BSD binaries
            under /pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86
        nova.cc.purdue.edu        - 386BSD binaries
            under /pub/386bsd/submissions/XFree86
        ftp.cs.uwm.edu            - Mach binaries
            under /i386

    Each binary distribution will contain a README file that describes
    what files you need to take from the archive, and which compile-time
    option selections were made when building the distribution.

IV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?

11. Installation directories

    The top-level installation directory is specified by the ProjectRoot
    (/usr/X386, by default) variable in config/site.def. Binaries, include
    files, and libraries are installed in $ProjectRoot/{bin,include,lib}.

    This can be changed when rebuilding from sources, and can be modified
    via symbolic links for those OSs that support them. This directory is
    nonstandard, and was chosen this way to allow XFree86 to be installed
    alongside a commercial/vendor-supplied X implementation.

12. Configuration files

    The XFree86 server reads a configuration file ("Xconfig") on startup.
    The search path, contents and syntax for this file are documented in
    the server manpage, which should be consulted before asking questions.

13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes

    David E Wexelblat ([e-mail]) maintains a database of known
    clock settings for VGA cards and monitor settings.
    The database is installed in /usr/X386/lib/X11/etc/modeDB.txt, and
    is in the source tree under mit/server/ddx/x386/etc. This database is
    also available from him (for the latest copy), and is kept on
    export.lcs.mit.edu in ~/contrib/X386.modeDB.Z, which is updated
    occasionally.  Obtain a copy of this database.  It just might have the
    settings you need.  If you create new settings, please send them to
    David for inclusion in the database.

    If this doesn't help you, the CONFIG and Xconfig.Notes files with
    XFree86 contains tutorials on how to come up with these timings. It
    may be helpful to start with settings that almost work, and use this
    description to get them right.  When you do, send the information to
    David Wexelblat for inclusion in the database.

    NOTE: The old 'clock.exe' program is not supported any more, and
          is completely unnecessary.  If you need to determine dot
          clock values for a new board, remove the 'Clocks' line from
          your Xconfig file (if present), and start the server.  The
          server will probe for clocks itself and print them out.
          You can use these values to put a 'Clocks' line into your
          Xconfig file, which is not necessary, but will speed up
          starting the server in the future.

14. Rebuilding/reconfiguring the server from the link kit

    If you have installed the server Binary Link Kit, it is possible to
    reconfigure the drivers and font renderers in the server.  This is
    fully explained in the README file that is available with the link kit.

V) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?

    First of all, the server must be installed suid-root (mode 4755).

15. SVR4
    Why won't my xterm run properly?

    If your kernel is not built with the consem module, you should define
    CONSEM=no in you environment. Otherwise xterm won't run.
    csh users should use 'setenv CONSEM no'

    The Esix console driver patch 403019 is known to cause keymapping
    problems with XFree86.  It recommended that this patch not be
    installed.  Alternatively they keymap can be fixed with xmodmap.

16. SVR3

    Make sure you look at $FTP/README.ISC, if that's what you are running.

17. 386BSD

    Make sure you look at $FTP/README.386BSD.

    1) What if after xdm, twm and xterm start up and run ok, the keyboard
       freezes and i have to reboot?

    If the server crashes and fails to put the keyboard back in ascii
    mode (e.g. your keyboard is dead but remote logins are fine), you
    can reset it by 'kbd_mode -a' from a remote login.  Likewise, if a
    rogue program put the keyboard in ascii mode while the server is
    running, the keyboard will need to be reset using 'kbd_mode -u'.

    2) What do I do if xdm reports 'Crypt not present in system' or xdm
       won't accept my password?

    If you are using the xdm binary from core-bin-1.1.tar.Z on agate,
    make sure your passwords are unencrypted.  Use vipw to check the
    password file -- you should see the unencrypted passwords there.
    If so, ignore the 'Crypt not present in system' message.

    Why? 386BSD 0.1's stock crypt routine is a dummy (crypt_dummy.c)
    that prints this message whenever you invoke it.  This message
    merely tells you that passwords are unencrypted.

    This dummy crypt is staticly linked into xdm in core-bin-1.1.tar.Z
    on agate, and export restrictions prevent us from providing
    binaries with a real crypt.  If you need xdm with a working crypt,
    you will have to get the XFree86 distribution and rebuild xdm.
    Chris Demetriou's /usr/386bsd.errata/crypt.instructions tells you
    how to install a real crypt.

    [ thanks to [e-mail] for these suggestions ]

18. Linux

    You must be running Linux 0.97pl4 or greater, and have the 4.1 gcc
    jump libraries installed.

    Make sure the binaries X386, X386mono, xload and xterm are setuid root.

    If your kernel doesn't have TCP support compiled in, you'll have to
    run the server as "X -pn". The default startup configuration assumes
    that TCP is not available. If it is, change the two files
    /usr/X386/bin/startx and /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers, removing the
    -pn argument to X386.

    Make sure /dev/console is either a link to /dev/tty0 or has the major
    number 4, minor number 0. Also note that if /dev/console is not
    owned by the user running X, then xconsole and xterm will not permit
    console output redirection. Xdm will properly change the owner, but
    startx won't.

    When running xdm from rc.local, you will need to provide it with
    a tty, for example "xdm < /dev/console &".

    For more detailed information, please read the file README present
    with the distribution on tsx-11.mit.edu.

19. Mach

    Make sure you look at $FTP/README.Mach.

VI) What general things should I know for building XFree86 from source?

20. Disk space requirements

    - about 60-70MB of free disk space is required for building XFree86. An
      additional 20-30MB is required to install the built binaries,
    - If you don't want to build PEX and/or want to minimize disk usage,
      you can remove some or all of the following directories:

        mit/doc                         mit/hardcopy
        mit/demos/auto_box              mit/extensions/lib/PEX
        mit/demos/beach_ball            mit/extensions/server/PEX
        mit/demos/gpc                   mit/extensions/test/InsPEX
        mit/fonts/PEX                   mit/lib/CLX
        mit/server/ddx/dec              mit/server/ddx/ibm
        mit/server/ddx/macII            mit/server/ddx/mips
        mit/server/ddx/omron            mit/server/ddx/snf
        mit/server/ddx/sun              mit/server/ddx/tek
        mit/util/PEX

      The following large fonts in mit/fonts/bdf/misc can also be removed:

         k14.bdf             hang*.bdf         jiskan*.bdf

21. README files to take note of

    $FTP/README, as well as any system-specific README file.
    Also read through 'site.def'.  There are lots of documented options
    that can be changed from their defaults by editing this file.

22. Compiler recommendations

    gcc 2.? is *strongly* recommended for building server, libs, clients.
    In most cases it generates faster code than the standard compiler, and
    for those with a 486, its -m486 flag can provide an additional 5%
    improvement. The resulting executables will be larger, but can still
    be run on a 386 CPU with no loss in performance.

VII) What OS-specific things should I know for building XFree86 from source?

23. SVR4

    You may need to re-tune your kernel (see the README file).
    Don't use csh, use ksh instead.

24. SVR3

    Make sure you look at $FTP/README.ISC, if that's what you are running.

25. 386BSD

    Make sure you look at $FTP/README.386BSD.

26. Linux

    Some Makefiles in the server are automatically generated based on
    configuration options. Under Linux, these automatic makes do not
    perform the "make depend" step. To turn that back on, change the
    definition of "Depend" in x386.cf from "emptyrule" to "depend".

    Makedepend is a shell script that uses ed. The public domain version
    of ed used in linux has a line length limit of 512 characters,
    and mit/lib/X has one line of 1500 characters, causing make to fail.
    Recompiling ed with a line limit of 2048 will avoid this problem.
        [ Thanks to <[e-mail]> for this suggestion ]

    To create private jump libraries, use the tools in the gcc shlib
    subdirectory. Change the Makefile appropriately and type "make X11".

    For more detailed information, please read the file README present
    with the distribution on tsx-11.mit.edu.

27. Mach

    Make sure you look at $FTP/README.Mach.

VIII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?

28. BSD compatibility library

    A lot of clients make use of BSD functions like bcopy(), etc.
    The default configuration files are set up to link with libXbsd.a
    which contains emulation for bcopy(), bzero(), bcmp(), ffs(), random(),
    seed(). A better way of providing the 'b' functions is to include
    <X11/Xfuncs.h> in source files that call them.  Xfuncs.h provides macro
    definitions for these in terms of the SYSV 'mem' functions.  If you are
    linking with a vendor supplied library which calls some of these
    functions, then you should link with libXbsd.a

29. ANSICCOPTIONS

    This is something that was added to allow a developer to get rid of the
    ANSI-ness defined in the default CCOPTIONS without having to rewrite
    the entire CCOPTIONS line.  For example, with stock MIT, you'd see
    something like
        CCOPTIONS="-ansi -O2 -fwritable-strings"
    and to get rid of the ANSI-ness, the developer would have to put
        CCOPTIONS="-O2 -fwritable-strings"
    in his Imakefile.  With this change, you would see a default of
        ANSICCOPTIONS="-ansi"
        CCOPTIONS="-O2 -fwritable-strings"
    and all the developer would have to put in the Imakefile is:
        ANSICCOPTIONS=
    to get rid of the ANSI-ness (many X clients will die a horrible death
    with -ansi).  The effect is even more dramatic in practice, because
    CCOPTIONS is actually quite complex.  The other issue is that one must
    add 'ANSICCOPTIONS=$(ANSICCOPTIONS)' to a PassCDebugFlags definition.

CONTACT INFORMATION

    Ongoing development planning and support is coordinated by the XFree86
    Core Team.  At this time the Core Team consists of:

    The original "gang of four":
        David Dawes <[e-mail]>
        Glenn Lai <[e-mail]>
        Jim Tsillas <[e-mail]>
        David Wexelblat <[e-mail]>

    Those supporting non-SYSV operating systems:
        Robert Baron <[e-mail]> [Mach]
        Rich Murphey <[e-mail]> [386BSD]
        Orest Zborowski <[e-mail]> [Linux]

    e-mail sent to <[e-mail]> will reach all of the core team.

    --------------------------------------------------

Thanks to all the people who already sent me corrections or additions.
--
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   [e-mail]
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               CSU Freso ATI-NET                   (Login: super)
             telnet eureka.clemson.edu or telnet 130.127.8.3
             CUFAN (Clemson U Forestry & Ag. Net.) (Login: PUBLIC)
                ftp ftp.sura.net (get file pub/nic/agricultural.list,
             it contains agricultural email lists & services.)
                mail [e-mail]
             body-of-message: send guide  also: send mail-catalog

   offers: Agricultural info (livestock reports, current market prices, etc.)

 +Almanac mail servers  mail [e-mail]
            mail [e-mail]
            mail [e-mail]
            mail [e-mail]
            mail [e-mail]
   offers: USDA market news, articles about the use of computer in agricultural
       science, and Extension Computing Technology Newsletters.
        In body of letter: send guide

 -Am. Philos. Assoc.    telnet atl.calstate.edu or telnet 130.150.102.33
   offers:  BBS for APA.  (Login: apa)

 -Amateur Radio          mail [e-mail]
   offers: Ascii files about Amateur Radio and electronics.
   Body of letter: help, info, send <filename> or quit (ie send prospect)

 -Archie         telnet archie.funet.fi or 128.214.6.100  (Finland/Eur.)
            telnet archie.au or 139.130.4.6         (Aussie/NZ)
                telnet archie.cs.huji.ac.il or 132.65.6.5      (Israel)
                telnet archie.doc.ic.ac.uk or 146.169.11.3 (UK/Ireland)
                telnet archie.sura.net or 128.167.254.179    (USA [MD])
                    telnet archie.unl.edu or 129.93.1.14         (USA [NE])
                telnet archie.ans.net or 147.225.1.2         (USA [NY])
            telnet archie.rutgers.edu or 128.6.18.15     (USA [NJ])
                        telnet archie.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp or 130.54.20.1 (JAPAN)
                telnet archie.nz or 130.195.9.4          (New Zealand)
               +telnet archie.th-darmstadt.de or 130.83.128.111  (GER.)
   offers: Searches all ftp sites for any program you want.  (Login: archie)